Should I Powder Coat Or Paint My Bmx Bike

The utility wheel has rusty scrapes and a few surface rusted patches developing under the clear coat. Steel mudguards and rear rack demand doing too. Undecided whether to (in assumed ascending toll scale):

i. Castor/sand the rusted areas down and and then rattle-can clearcoat those patches (stock silver paint so no large mismatch)?

2. Strip whole frame past hand and rattle-can paint task?

3. Hammerite (spray or brush)

4. Powder-coaters, if so practise finishes vary in durability, where to?

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Posted 5 years ago

By the time yous've bough the abrasives, primer and pigment and spent hours cleaning off the sometime stuff, reapplied the new it'll still look gash for the same money as a powdercoat.

Posted v years ago

rattle cans are shit, you'll accept more than scrapes on information technology before you know it.

but and so if it's just the Ute, how much effort d'you want to actually want to put in?

Posted 5 years agone

I've used a place in Ledbury a couple of times for powder coating and they are pretty inexpensive/do a skilful task.

Posted 5 years agone

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I wanted my wheel to look properly shit, then I went for exterior emulsion, waiting for it to go a bit tacky and so brushed over over again, so the crude finish would permit things o grow on information technology.

The downtube cracked a year later on, simply I'm pretty sure that was more to do with it having spent god knows how long left outside in the 25 years earlier it made its way to me. Probably.

If I was looking at a decent strip down and repaint, I would 100% requite it to a powdercoat shop. Tried my hand at a few things over the years, and messing circular with chemicals for hours vs giving someone the frame and £50 and picking it up done definitely falls into the "pay someone else" pile.

Posted 5 years ago

only then if it's just the Ute, how much try d'you want to really want to put in?

This is the thing. It is the 'ute' but non 'only the ute'. I'm very fond of it, typically ride it a lot and it'south a keeper. If i could afford information technology information technology'd accept a green-bronze flamboyant pigment pack and triple clearcoat 😉

Needs a strip downward anyway equally the headset is rusting 😳

So information technology's betwixt powdercoat or Hammerite. Doesn't Hammerite only get straight on top of the old (pre-sanded) clearcoat? Whether can or brush? I'd certainly expect that end to last longer than powder-glaze,butmaybe I'm underestimating powdercoat because of one poor experience in the past (frame rusted underneath, breaking out all over like measles)

Posted 5 years ago

skilful powdercoat volition await amend than a Hammerite brush chore every day, and volition last as long, but should concluding style longer.

Posted five years ago

If you just want a cheap change of colour – rattle can on top of the existing paint.

If you want it to look expert for a while – powdercoat

I've attempted to strip 3x frames in the past, none were like shooting fish in a barrel and plain nitromors has changed for the worse yet over again then you'd accept more than success giving the paint a menacing look. Stripping paint is a horrible, boring, difficult, messy and painful (if you go nitromors on your peel). Definitely one to leave to the professionals.

Posted 5 years agone

Ohmigodomigod…

FOUND A GADGET! Anyone used an electrostatic 3D Hammerite gun?!! I could make everything expect like it's genetically related to a greenish metal watering tin can! Only seriously…why non this?

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Posted 5 years ago

Anyone who has ever been an apprentice will know you wont get a hammered cease if you spray it on, it must go i with a half inch brush.

Oh and powder coat every time, I'm just well-nigh to do mine and the Mrs pub bikes, I only deceit determine what colours.

Posted v years ago

Cheers for comments. Was thinking hammerite smooth cease. ie not very ugly simply durable?

Posted 5 years ago

My local powdercoater charges £55 to strip and coat a frame. When you look at costs and efforts of DIY it isn't worth it. End would be amend as well IMO.

The electrostatic guns are more common in workshops (actually similar tech to how you go the powder to stick). Even with that you'll unlikely become a expert end. Spray painting requires some do and skill to get adept at.

Last betoken is chemistry. The DIY paints you'll be buying will be solvent drying 1k paints. Pulverisation and professionals will be using 2k. In general this allows for a much harder, tougher finish. And so your DIY job volition scuff up in a few months but the powder coat wil go on and on.

Posted 5 years agone

Thank you all. Have decided to follow STW wisdom and get it powder-coated after summer-season.

Posted 4 years ago

Would be interested to know how much a powder coat costs.

Posted 4 years ago

My local powdercoater charges £55 to strip and coat a frame. When you look at costs and efforts of DIY it isn't worth it.

This. I paid a scrap more, but the powdercoater was used to doing motorbikes and so took the time to mask upwardly all the threads. I and then had some replacement decals fabricated upward.

Posted 4 years ago

Hammerite should exist reserved simply for old men to pigment railings with.

Posted 4 years ago

I've had 2 bikes (and rigid forks) done in the past:
First was £35 including sandblasting. However despite telling me all would be taped they ended up getting loads on the threads and so I had to chase these out. Paint itself was fantabulous.

Second was effectually £forty-50 iirc. Much meliorate terminate and more professionally done.

For the hassle (and fourth dimension!!) of stripping yourself plus quiestionable end / immovability powdercoat is definitely the mode forrad IMHO.

Let's meet a before and after shot OP!

Posted four years ago

Just delight make sure it's masked off properly before it's blasted & coated.
I've just spent five hours cleaning a frame ready for a rebuild after it was power coated as it wasn't masked.
BB chased & faced, head tube reamed & faced, bearing seats all cleaned out by hand (old full sus frame)
It'll save a lot of hassle in the long run

Posted 4 years ago

Permit's see a before and after shot OP!

Will do, I have until October/Nov to agonise over the colour. So far either black-blue (RAL 5004) or some physical grey/green (RAL 7023). Accept to decide whether to do match the mudguards and racks to the frame or contrast them in hardy matte-black.

Want unfussy, lo-viz and hands retouched. That'due south a signal, what touch-up paints adhere to powdercoat? I take non a clue.
😯

@goldenwonder thanks for the reminder re correct masking. I'll have a 'proper discussion" with whoever does it.

Posted four years agone

Since nosotros are hither:

Local pulverisation coaters or Argos Cycles for my daughter's 20″ frame? It needs to become pink, apparently.

Posted four years ago

Powdercoat is the way forward.

Had my 5 done, £fifty inc sandblasting.

That said I would be VERY specific about where yous desire coating and where yous don't, had to take BB refaced and chased. That said bike shop said it was best powdercoating he had seen 🙂

Posted 4 years ago

Local powder coaters or Argos Cycles for my daughter's 20″ frame? It needs to become pink, apparently.

Argos Cycles respray will cost more than the bicycle!

Posted iv years ago

I idea they weren't too bad for a basic pigment task that wasn't spangly.

Posted 4 years ago

I thought they weren't too bad for a basic paint job that wasn't spangly.

Cheapest possible price is £155 according to their website. I've used them, and they have very good attention to detail, merely the finish is fragile. Unless you lot're bothered about a specific cease I'd save £100 and have it powdercoated.

Posted 4 years ago

Aye, stuff that. Powdercoaters information technology is.

Posted 4 years agone

For those who practise demand to do whatever paint stripping themselves I'd suggest something chosen Synstryp past Starchem. I got some to prep for a rattle tin can paint job on an quondam Kinesis frame afterwards trying the utter waste of coin that is mod Nitromors.
Dabbed it on over the paint, left information technology fifteen minutes and came back to discover a nice pile of liquified paint under the frame.
Information technology still contains dichloromethane (the proficient stuff) that nitromors accept got rid of.
I'm unremarkably the starting time to disregard safety info, just this stuff is nasty; wear PPE and apply information technology outside!

Posted four years agone

Do you get a discount at a powdercoaters for stripping it yourself?

Posted 4 years ago

If you lot only want to brand it look a bit more presentable I managed a decent job by rubbing downward the crude edges on a frame and painting it with valspar paint and primer in 1 spray paint – the stuff that used to be called plastikote IIRC. Its a flake delicate simply gave a decent finish for a couple of hours piece of work and £x

Posted 4 years ago

I did my old commuter with yellow hammerite- ridiculous amount of work merely information technology came out nice, and with 5000 coats, was as well pretty tough. 4 cans full with a dustcoat on top to make it nice and apartment, had a nice texture too. But fifty-fifty leaving aside time, that toll me more than than a pro powdercoat, I just did it because it was fun.

You can e'er shoot a tin of bbq paint over anything. Or halfords enamel. Cheap, easy, volition await adequately crap. Did this for my brother's Courier, information technology's perfect, information technology looks and then bad he barely needs to lock information technology up.

Posted four years ago

molgrips – Member
Do you go a discount at a powdercoaters for stripping it yourself?

Probably not. A lot of pigment performance is in the preparation – whatsoever good powder coater would want to ensure the paint is stripped and the metal prepared to specification. And then this means taking a risk on your work or doing it once again. You'd be going dorsum to complain if it blistered so they'll probably do information technology over again.

Posted 4 years ago

Information technology still contains dichloromethane (the skillful stuff) that nitromors have got rid of.

It's expert at destroying the ozone layer…

Posted four years agone

I've used that spray.bike stuff, it's not bad if you want a matte cease but the lacquer is trickier to use. It'southward also not very tough and very piece of cake to scratch.

It's fun to use and you can go crazy with the colours. I'chiliad simply about to utilize it on a xiv″ 456 I bought from here, in one case my son has decided on the colour scheme he wants.

I used the homebase own brand paint stripper and it's surprisingly effective.

Posted 4 years ago

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